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	<title>Comments on: Envy Code R programming font &#8211; preview available for download</title>
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		<title>By: flying sheep</title>
		<link>http://damieng.com/blog/2006/12/26/envy-code-r-programming-font-preview-available-for-download#comment-26817</link>
		<dc:creator>flying sheep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 11:16:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i like the old braces better, too.
and for the asterisk thingy:
*: asterisk
∗: asterisk operator (this is what you want)
⁎: low asterisk
⁑: two verically aligned asterisks
⁂: asterism
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asterisk#Encodings)
the * is supposed to be where it is ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i like the old braces better, too.<br />
and for the asterisk thingy:<br />
*: asterisk<br />
∗: asterisk operator (this is what you want)<br />
⁎: low asterisk<br />
⁑: two verically aligned asterisks<br />
⁂: asterism<br />
(<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asterisk#Encodings" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asterisk#Encodings</a>)<br />
the * is supposed to be where it is ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
		<link>http://damieng.com/blog/2006/12/26/envy-code-r-programming-font-preview-available-for-download#comment-10305</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 16:18:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for this brilliant font; I&#039;ve been stuck with Courier New for quite some time.

My only issue is the braces -- I prefer the ones in your earlier preview, personally.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for this brilliant font; I&#8217;ve been stuck with Courier New for quite some time.</p>
<p>My only issue is the braces &#8212; I prefer the ones in your earlier preview, personally.</p>
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		<title>By: Mihai</title>
		<link>http://damieng.com/blog/2006/12/26/envy-code-r-programming-font-preview-available-for-download#comment-7195</link>
		<dc:creator>Mihai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 15:06:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a very nice font, unfortunatelly it lacks ISO8859-2 accents (like ? ? ? î â).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a very nice font, unfortunatelly it lacks ISO8859-2 accents (like ? ? ? î â).</p>
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		<title>By: Damien Guard</title>
		<link>http://damieng.com/blog/2006/12/26/envy-code-r-programming-font-preview-available-for-download#comment-1763</link>
		<dc:creator>Damien Guard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2007 09:25:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You couldn&#039;t increase the spacing between the lines of the m without making the letter wider and if you do that then every single other letter would also be wider - that is one of the compromises you have to make with a monospaced font.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;At the moment there is no released bold version so when you select bold Windows is attempting to create one on the fly, with bad results.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I have a bold version here which is a little better but it needs a bit of a tidy-up.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;[)amien</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You couldn&#8217;t increase the spacing between the lines of the m without making the letter wider and if you do that then every single other letter would also be wider &#8211; that is one of the compromises you have to make with a monospaced font.</p>
<p>At the moment there is no released bold version so when you select bold Windows is attempting to create one on the fly, with bad results.</p>
<p>I have a bold version here which is a little better but it needs a bit of a tidy-up.</p>
<p>[)amien</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://damieng.com/blog/2006/12/26/envy-code-r-programming-font-preview-available-for-download#comment-1762</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 03:49:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice font; however, I don&#039;t care for the &#039;m&#039;. The lines are really close, and bolding it makes it a blob.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice font; however, I don&#8217;t care for the &#8216;m&#8217;. The lines are really close, and bolding it makes it a blob.</p>
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		<title>By: longs</title>
		<link>http://damieng.com/blog/2006/12/26/envy-code-r-programming-font-preview-available-for-download#comment-1761</link>
		<dc:creator>longs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 01:29:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>looks so cool,thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>looks so cool,thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Farina</title>
		<link>http://damieng.com/blog/2006/12/26/envy-code-r-programming-font-preview-available-for-download#comment-1760</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Farina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jan 2007 04:08:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s pretty funky on Eclipse under GNU/Linux as well...lots of characters running over one another at size 10. It does seem to not have this problem at size 11, however...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s pretty funky on Eclipse under GNU/Linux as well&#8230;lots of characters running over one another at size 10. It does seem to not have this problem at size 11, however&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Tony Perrie</title>
		<link>http://damieng.com/blog/2006/12/26/envy-code-r-programming-font-preview-available-for-download#comment-1759</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony Perrie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jan 2007 03:38:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just tried in on TextMate on my Powerbook and it was fairly unreadable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just tried in on TextMate on my Powerbook and it was fairly unreadable.</p>
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		<title>By: Mel Boyce</title>
		<link>http://damieng.com/blog/2006/12/26/envy-code-r-programming-font-preview-available-for-download#comment-1758</link>
		<dc:creator>Mel Boyce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jan 2007 22:29:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am now using this typeface on Mac OS X 10.4 with Textmate. I like the font although there are some very odd rendering peculiarities when the font-size is 10, 12, or 13 points (I suspect Textmate is the culprit as there are no rendering issues within the font dialog).&lt;br /&gt;Excellent font; thanks for the effort.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am now using this typeface on Mac OS X 10.4 with Textmate. I like the font although there are some very odd rendering peculiarities when the font-size is 10, 12, or 13 points (I suspect Textmate is the culprit as there are no rendering issues within the font dialog).<br />Excellent font; thanks for the effort.</p>
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		<title>By: Stu</title>
		<link>http://damieng.com/blog/2006/12/26/envy-code-r-programming-font-preview-available-for-download#comment-1757</link>
		<dc:creator>Stu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jan 2007 10:58:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>java probably does have its own renderer. I like to be able to read my code, and everyone seems to product 8+10pt bitmap programmer fonts. Thats way too much eyestrain to me when staring at it all day long.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I think consolas looks like a dog, and most people who gush over it are microsoft users who have only ever used courier new. (andale mono is my backup to monaco so I wont bash it too much;)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;good luck with the font work</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>java probably does have its own renderer. I like to be able to read my code, and everyone seems to product 8+10pt bitmap programmer fonts. Thats way too much eyestrain to me when staring at it all day long.</p>
<p>I think consolas looks like a dog, and most people who gush over it are microsoft users who have only ever used courier new. (andale mono is my backup to monaco so I wont bash it too much;)</p>
<p>good luck with the font work</p>
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		<title>By: Damien Guard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Damien Guard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jan 2007 09:02:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It would appear jEdit is not using Windows to render it&#039;s text - I assume it is either using a feature of Java or some library for rendering the text.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This gives us so far Windows, Mac, FreeType and jEdit/Java renderers all of which can operate in a variety of modes! &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I&#039;ll see what I can do - I think the hints will solve the height issues and I want to address the lower-case X anyway.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It may well be that Code R stays as optimized for Windows/10pt and the next font I do tries to be an all-purpose all-systems alternative to the likes of Monaco/Consolas/Andale Mono.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;[)amien</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would appear jEdit is not using Windows to render it&#8217;s text &#8211; I assume it is either using a feature of Java or some library for rendering the text.</p>
<p>This gives us so far Windows, Mac, FreeType and jEdit/Java renderers all of which can operate in a variety of modes! </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll see what I can do &#8211; I think the hints will solve the height issues and I want to address the lower-case X anyway.</p>
<p>It may well be that Code R stays as optimized for Windows/10pt and the next font I do tries to be an all-purpose all-systems alternative to the likes of Monaco/Consolas/Andale Mono.</p>
<p>[)amien</p>
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		<title>By: Stu</title>
		<link>http://damieng.com/blog/2006/12/26/envy-code-r-programming-font-preview-available-for-download#comment-1755</link>
		<dc:creator>Stu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jan 2007 05:32:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was running it at 18pt (which comes out at the same size as monaco 16pt).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;here is a &lt;a href=&quot;http://mega-tokyo.com/blog/images/uploads/x1.png&quot;&gt;side by side of monaco 16pt with envy code r 18pt&lt;/a&gt; with some nice roguelike code hacking going in with SAP deployment code in the background.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was running it at 18pt (which comes out at the same size as monaco 16pt).</p>
<p>here is a <a href="http://mega-tokyo.com/blog/images/uploads/x1.png">side by side of monaco 16pt with envy code r 18pt</a> with some nice roguelike code hacking going in with SAP deployment code in the background.</p>
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		<title>By: Damien Guard</title>
		<link>http://damieng.com/blog/2006/12/26/envy-code-r-programming-font-preview-available-for-download#comment-1754</link>
		<dc:creator>Damien Guard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jan 2007 03:42:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, at some point sizes there are height issues between the characters - I&#039;m trying to find out why  and the solution may well be hinting which I&#039;m currently getting to grips with.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What size were you using it at?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;[)amien</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, at some point sizes there are height issues between the characters &#8211; I&#8217;m trying to find out why  and the solution may well be hinting which I&#8217;m currently getting to grips with.</p>
<p>What size were you using it at?</p>
<p>[)amien</p>
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		<title>By: Stu</title>
		<link>http://damieng.com/blog/2006/12/26/envy-code-r-programming-font-preview-available-for-download#comment-1753</link>
		<dc:creator>Stu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jan 2007 03:26:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Running it as a test in jEdit,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&#039;h&#039; +&#039;d&#039; arch is not as high as other letters and looks a bit disconcerting. I also dont like the lowercase &#039;x&#039;. subpixel rendering makes it look a bit off. I think some more differentiation of lowercase L and number 1&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Im also not sure I like that lowercase is nearly same height as uppercase. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For the moment I&#039;ll stick to monaco and try this again later.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Running it as a test in jEdit,</p>
<p>&#8216;h&#8217; +&#8217;d&#8217; arch is not as high as other letters and looks a bit disconcerting. I also dont like the lowercase &#8216;x&#8217;. subpixel rendering makes it look a bit off. I think some more differentiation of lowercase L and number 1</p>
<p>Im also not sure I like that lowercase is nearly same height as uppercase. </p>
<p>For the moment I&#8217;ll stick to monaco and try this again later.</p>
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		<title>By: Damien Guard</title>
		<link>http://damieng.com/blog/2006/12/26/envy-code-r-programming-font-preview-available-for-download#comment-1752</link>
		<dc:creator>Damien Guard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Dec 2006 21:09:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For now Code R will stick to Code B and have the &#039;*&#039; but if you send me an email to damieng@gmail.com I&#039;ll send you an individual version with the * there ;-)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;[)amien</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For now Code R will stick to Code B and have the &#8216;*&#8217; but if you send me an email to <a href="mailto:damieng@gmail.com">damieng@gmail.com</a> I&#8217;ll send you an individual version with the * there ;-)</p>
<p>[)amien</p>
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