Comments on: Apple Macworld misfires http://damieng.com/blog/2007/01/10/apple-macworld-misfires?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=apple-macworld-misfires A .NET developer in silicon valley Fri, 18 May 2012 15:31:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: steve http://damieng.com/blog/2007/01/10/apple-macworld-misfires#comment-1780 steve Wed, 10 Jan 2007 22:22:49 +0000 http://damieng.com/blog/archive/2007/01/10/apple-macworld-misfires.aspx#comment-1780 Ah, well that's a bit crap then. I only read the headlines and assumed the price was RPP like everyone else. <br /><br />An exclusive deal with one provider is a pretty dumb move if you want your phone to become commonplace. You're right, there's no way I'd pay that kind of money for an iPhone. Ah, well that’s a bit crap then. I only read the headlines and assumed the price was RPP like everyone else.

An exclusive deal with one provider is a pretty dumb move if you want your phone to become commonplace. You’re right, there’s no way I’d pay that kind of money for an iPhone.

]]> By: Damien Guard http://damieng.com/blog/2007/01/10/apple-macworld-misfires#comment-1779 Damien Guard Wed, 10 Jan 2007 22:11:00 +0000 http://damieng.com/blog/archive/2007/01/10/apple-macworld-misfires.aspx#comment-1779 No, you misunderstand it.<br /><br />That $499 and $599 *is* when you buy it bundled with a 2-year contract from Cingular who also have a multi-year exclusive deal so you can't even buy it without their contract for more or discounted elsewhere.<br /><br />[)amien No, you misunderstand it.

That $499 and $599 *is* when you buy it bundled with a 2-year contract from Cingular who also have a multi-year exclusive deal so you can’t even buy it without their contract for more or discounted elsewhere.

[)amien

]]> By: steve http://damieng.com/blog/2007/01/10/apple-macworld-misfires#comment-1778 steve Wed, 10 Jan 2007 22:07:37 +0000 http://damieng.com/blog/archive/2007/01/10/apple-macworld-misfires.aspx#comment-1778 Yeah, but you can't consider the RRP. $499 translates to a lot lower once you get down to discounted prices and bundling. Most ordinary GSM phones have a RRP of over $300 and $400 isn't that unusual - you can find the D900 online without any service provider for over $400. My D800 is about £170 (sterling now) but I got it for £9 on a contract deal - by comparison the iPhone would probably cost around £100 with a similar deal, less if you count discounting from RRP. <br /><br />Apple products are always a bit more expensive spec-to-spec and people buy them because of the 'cool' factor Yeah, but you can’t consider the RRP. $499 translates to a lot lower once you get down to discounted prices and bundling. Most ordinary GSM phones have a RRP of over $300 and $400 isn’t that unusual – you can find the D900 online without any service provider for over $400. My D800 is about £170 (sterling now) but I got it for £9 on a contract deal – by comparison the iPhone would probably cost around £100 with a similar deal, less if you count discounting from RRP.

Apple products are always a bit more expensive spec-to-spec and people buy them because of the ‘cool’ factor

]]> By: GrinGod http://damieng.com/blog/2007/01/10/apple-macworld-misfires#comment-1777 GrinGod Wed, 10 Jan 2007 20:29:23 +0000 http://damieng.com/blog/archive/2007/01/10/apple-macworld-misfires.aspx#comment-1777 I also noticed on the specs of the AirPort Extreme w/ 802.11n that the ethernet ports are 10/100. Surely they should have put gigabit ports in it?<br /><br />802.11n is set to be 200 - 500Mbit/s so why are they castrating wired users? I also noticed on the specs of the AirPort Extreme w/ 802.11n that the ethernet ports are 10/100. Surely they should have put gigabit ports in it?

802.11n is set to be 200 – 500Mbit/s so why are they castrating wired users?

]]> By: Damien Guard http://damieng.com/blog/2007/01/10/apple-macworld-misfires#comment-1776 Damien Guard Wed, 10 Jan 2007 20:13:12 +0000 http://damieng.com/blog/archive/2007/01/10/apple-macworld-misfires.aspx#comment-1776 But that is my point.<br /><br />The sort of guy who doesn't need these features won't be prepared to plump down $499.<br /><br />The sort of guy who does already has very likely has requirements the iPhone can't meet - or indeed without the SDK be supplemented to meet.<br /><br />[)amien But that is my point.

The sort of guy who doesn’t need these features won’t be prepared to plump down $499.

The sort of guy who does already has very likely has requirements the iPhone can’t meet – or indeed without the SDK be supplemented to meet.

[)amien

]]> By: steve http://damieng.com/blog/2007/01/10/apple-macworld-misfires#comment-1775 steve Wed, 10 Jan 2007 20:02:31 +0000 http://damieng.com/blog/archive/2007/01/10/apple-macworld-misfires.aspx#comment-1775 iPhone: I think it's a typical Apple product. Very nice interface that will win them a lot of friends, nice physical design which will win them kudos, and a general aura of 'cool'. Apple have never led on ancilliary technical features in the device market - the iPod lagged behind competitors in features for ages and arguably still does, but people still buy it because it looks nice, it's nice to use, the core function (playing music consistently on the move) was very well implemented and Joe Average probably wouldn't use the other features anyway. As perceptions of the masses gradually change I'm sure there'll be new iPhones adding those features just like there were new iPods. The SDK really won't matter to most. <br /><br />The only problem will be the price I think, but chances are that will drop relatively quickly just like the iPod did in the face of competition.<br /><br />I'm a technical sort of person but I don't give a toss about 3G (until it becomes cheaper), watching TV or using IM on my phone. I just want a nice phone, that's why I buy it - I really don't have the time or inclination to play with a ton of other features. I think in the mass market, a phone that just does the core things well with a great design could sell well, if the price is right. iPhone: I think it’s a typical Apple product. Very nice interface that will win them a lot of friends, nice physical design which will win them kudos, and a general aura of ‘cool’. Apple have never led on ancilliary technical features in the device market – the iPod lagged behind competitors in features for ages and arguably still does, but people still buy it because it looks nice, it’s nice to use, the core function (playing music consistently on the move) was very well implemented and Joe Average probably wouldn’t use the other features anyway. As perceptions of the masses gradually change I’m sure there’ll be new iPhones adding those features just like there were new iPods. The SDK really won’t matter to most.

The only problem will be the price I think, but chances are that will drop relatively quickly just like the iPod did in the face of competition.

I’m a technical sort of person but I don’t give a toss about 3G (until it becomes cheaper), watching TV or using IM on my phone. I just want a nice phone, that’s why I buy it – I really don’t have the time or inclination to play with a ton of other features. I think in the mass market, a phone that just does the core things well with a great design could sell well, if the price is right.

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