Comments on: My MbUnit first experience http://damieng.com/blog/2007/06/19/my-mbunit-first-experience?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=my-mbunit-first-experience A .NET developer in silicon valley Fri, 18 May 2012 15:31:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Julian Hidalgo http://damieng.com/blog/2007/06/19/my-mbunit-first-experience#comment-1925 Julian Hidalgo Mon, 25 Jun 2007 07:49:58 +0000 http://damieng.com/blog/archive/2007/06/19/my-mbunit-first-experience.aspx#comment-1925 Hi<br /><br />I <a href="http://hpoffice.cl/julian/archive/2007/06/24/Reply-to-My-MbUnit-first-experience.aspx.">replied here</a> Hi

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]]> By: Andy Stopford http://damieng.com/blog/2007/06/19/my-mbunit-first-experience#comment-1924 Andy Stopford Mon, 25 Jun 2007 02:59:42 +0000 http://damieng.com/blog/archive/2007/06/19/my-mbunit-first-experience.aspx#comment-1924 Hi,<br /><br />I am lead on the MbUnit project, I have only just become aware of this as I was away on vacation (but you have my undivided attention now ;-))<br /><br />I appreicate you taking the time to raise these concerns but I ask that if you do have any further concerns that these are outlined on the mailing lists that Ben has pointed out. The issues are unlikely to get fixed if the team are not aware of them and the very best way of doing this is to send a mail to the list.<br /><br />Thanks<br /><br />Andy Hi,

I am lead on the MbUnit project, I have only just become aware of this as I was away on vacation (but you have my undivided attention now ;-))

I appreicate you taking the time to raise these concerns but I ask that if you do have any further concerns that these are outlined on the mailing lists that Ben has pointed out. The issues are unlikely to get fixed if the team are not aware of them and the very best way of doing this is to send a mail to the list.

Thanks

Andy

]]> By: Ben Hall http://damieng.com/blog/2007/06/19/my-mbunit-first-experience#comment-1923 Ben Hall Sat, 23 Jun 2007 21:37:10 +0000 http://damieng.com/blog/archive/2007/06/19/my-mbunit-first-experience.aspx#comment-1923 Hello Damien.<br /><br />My name is Ben Hall, I help develop the MbUnit project. <br /><br />I'm sorry you have had a bad experience, I would just like to comment on your points.<br /><br />1) Installer abandons you. I agree with you on this and I feel start menu items would be helpful for new users. Once installed, the framework assemblies can easily be referenced from within Visual Studio and tests can be executed from TestDriven.NET and via CruiseControl.NET.<br /><br />2) Web site "Overview" and "Getting Started" pages have nothing about running tests. We are in the process of doing a complete rework of every bit of documentation on both the main site and on the wiki to help users coming to the framework and we have some great people working on this to help improve the experience. Not sure on the timescales of this at the moment, the changes you start to become apparent within the next month.<br /><br />3) Silently failing tests in GUI app. Interesting problem. Because it failed in the Test Setup and not within an actual test, the GUI did not display the error. There might be a reason for this, however it does need looking at. Thank you for bring this to our attention.<br /><br />4) Inconsistent GUI. We are currently working on the development of Mbunit Gallio which includes a brand new UI however we feel TestDriven.Net and other test runners provide a good base for executing tests.<br /><br />Thank you for your comments and screencast, they will be feed back into the development team and will be taken into account to improve the project. I hope the problems you have experience does not distract away from the core framework which does provide some excellent features.<br /><br />I wrote an article on <a href="http://www.nxtgenug.net/Article.aspx?ArticleID=107">getting started</a> which other users reading this might find useful .<br /><br />If you have any questions then please email me or the <a href="http://groups.google.com/group/mbunituser">mailing list</a><br /><br />Thank you<br /><br />Ben Hello Damien.

My name is Ben Hall, I help develop the MbUnit project.

I’m sorry you have had a bad experience, I would just like to comment on your points.

1) Installer abandons you. I agree with you on this and I feel start menu items would be helpful for new users. Once installed, the framework assemblies can easily be referenced from within Visual Studio and tests can be executed from TestDriven.NET and via CruiseControl.NET.

2) Web site “Overview” and “Getting Started” pages have nothing about running tests. We are in the process of doing a complete rework of every bit of documentation on both the main site and on the wiki to help users coming to the framework and we have some great people working on this to help improve the experience. Not sure on the timescales of this at the moment, the changes you start to become apparent within the next month.

3) Silently failing tests in GUI app. Interesting problem. Because it failed in the Test Setup and not within an actual test, the GUI did not display the error. There might be a reason for this, however it does need looking at. Thank you for bring this to our attention.

4) Inconsistent GUI. We are currently working on the development of Mbunit Gallio which includes a brand new UI however we feel TestDriven.Net and other test runners provide a good base for executing tests.

Thank you for your comments and screencast, they will be feed back into the development team and will be taken into account to improve the project. I hope the problems you have experience does not distract away from the core framework which does provide some excellent features.

I wrote an article on getting started which other users reading this might find useful .

If you have any questions then please email me or the mailing list

Thank you

Ben

]]> By: steve http://damieng.com/blog/2007/06/19/my-mbunit-first-experience#comment-1922 steve Wed, 20 Jun 2007 09:32:39 +0000 http://damieng.com/blog/archive/2007/06/19/my-mbunit-first-experience.aspx#comment-1922 Never heard of it before today. Having quickly skimmed the site the main thing that struck me was how weird it seemed to use the term 'RTM' for your releases when you're download-only ;) Taking MS naming convention a little far I think.<br /><br />My best experience with unit testing was with JUnit. Eclipse integration is really good, interactive and batch running worked great (the latter via ant, mailing error reports etc), coverage analysis through Clover - generally very good. boost::test is the best I've found in C++ but it hasn't got as much of an ecosystem around it like JUnit had.<br /> Never heard of it before today. Having quickly skimmed the site the main thing that struck me was how weird it seemed to use the term ‘RTM’ for your releases when you’re download-only ;) Taking MS naming convention a little far I think.

My best experience with unit testing was with JUnit. Eclipse integration is really good, interactive and batch running worked great (the latter via ant, mailing error reports etc), coverage analysis through Clover – generally very good. boost::test is the best I’ve found in C++ but it hasn’t got as much of an ecosystem around it like JUnit had.

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