Comments on: Observations on Microsoft MVC for ASP.NET http://damieng.com/blog/2007/10/09/observations-on-microsoft-mvc-for-aspnet A .NET developer in Redmond Sun, 14 Mar 2010 14:22:22 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Syed Ali Shah http://damieng.com/blog/2007/10/09/observations-on-microsoft-mvc-for-aspnet#comment-9743 Syed Ali Shah Mon, 20 Oct 2008 03:20:41 +0000 http://damieng.com/blog/2007/10/09/observations-on-microsoft-mvc-for-aspnet#comment-9743 This is very productive step to be taken. Specially the concept of the separation of concerns and eliminating the depedencies should be taken care of. After all the goal should be maximum reusable and extensiblity. This is very productive step to be taken. Specially the concept of the separation of concerns and eliminating the depedencies should be taken care of. After all the goal should be maximum reusable and extensiblity.

]]> By: steve http://damieng.com/blog/2007/10/09/observations-on-microsoft-mvc-for-aspnet#comment-4725 steve Tue, 23 Oct 2007 18:24:30 +0000 http://damieng.com/blog/2007/10/09/observations-on-microsoft-mvc-for-aspnet#comment-4725 "This is a cool step in the right direction, especially for the likes of me who want to use .NET but also like the MVC methodology and do not wish to switch to PHP or other more Linuxy solutions." For what it's worth, Struts (Java) implemented everything in this list in approximately 2000/2001 and real, production systems have been deployed on it, and other systems which have sprung up since as alternative takes on the model. You can basically get MVC frameworks most places except .Net, where once again they're reinventing the wheel. “This is a cool step in the right direction, especially for the likes of me who want to use .NET but also like the MVC methodology and do not wish to switch to PHP or other more Linuxy solutions.”

For what it’s worth, Struts (Java) implemented everything in this list in approximately 2000/2001 and real, production systems have been deployed on it, and other systems which have sprung up since as alternative takes on the model. You can basically get MVC frameworks most places except .Net, where once again they’re reinventing the wheel.

]]> By: ASP.NET MVC Framework Article Roundup « Jim 2.0’s Blog http://damieng.com/blog/2007/10/09/observations-on-microsoft-mvc-for-aspnet#comment-4696 ASP.NET MVC Framework Article Roundup « Jim 2.0’s Blog Sun, 21 Oct 2007 02:44:39 +0000 http://damieng.com/blog/2007/10/09/observations-on-microsoft-mvc-for-aspnet#comment-4696 [...] Observations on Microsoft MVC for ASP.NETBy Damien Guard (Oct 9, 2007)“Gurthrie and Hanselman presented Microsoft MVC at the Alt.Net conference which revealed some interesting details buried in the video, my rough observations and notes based on the prototype they showed…” [...] [...] Observations on Microsoft MVC for ASP.NETBy Damien Guard (Oct 9, 2007)“Gurthrie and Hanselman presented Microsoft MVC at the Alt.Net conference which revealed some interesting details buried in the video, my rough observations and notes based on the prototype they showed…” [...]

]]> By: Steve Woods http://damieng.com/blog/2007/10/09/observations-on-microsoft-mvc-for-aspnet#comment-4644 Steve Woods Wed, 17 Oct 2007 15:57:32 +0000 http://damieng.com/blog/2007/10/09/observations-on-microsoft-mvc-for-aspnet#comment-4644 To be honest, the lack of any real MVC for .NET put me off moving solely to it, and I stuck with classic ASP. I built a few projects using Monorail from the Castle Project which brought MVC to .NET but compatibility issues (especially now, with trust problems [in the apps i created] on Win2k3 Server) made me step back as it was a non-standard solution. This is a cool step in the right direction, especially for the likes of me who want to use .NET but also like the MVC methodology and do not wish to switch to PHP or other more Linuxy solutions. Interesting stuff :D To be honest, the lack of any real MVC for .NET put me off moving solely to it, and I stuck with classic ASP. I built a few projects using Monorail from the Castle Project which brought MVC to .NET but compatibility issues (especially now, with trust problems [in the apps i created] on Win2k3 Server) made me step back as it was a non-standard solution.

This is a cool step in the right direction, especially for the likes of me who want to use .NET but also like the MVC methodology and do not wish to switch to PHP or other more Linuxy solutions.

Interesting stuff :D

]]> By: ASP.NET MVC Framework announced - Cyberpunk???? http://damieng.com/blog/2007/10/09/observations-on-microsoft-mvc-for-aspnet#comment-4610 ASP.NET MVC Framework announced - Cyberpunk???? Mon, 15 Oct 2007 09:02:31 +0000 http://damieng.com/blog/2007/10/09/observations-on-microsoft-mvc-for-aspnet#comment-4610 [...] Observations on Microsoft MVC for ASP.NET [...] [...] Observations on Microsoft MVC for ASP.NET [...]

]]> By: Ben Scheirman http://damieng.com/blog/2007/10/09/observations-on-microsoft-mvc-for-aspnet#comment-4573 Ben Scheirman Fri, 12 Oct 2007 13:26:07 +0000 http://damieng.com/blog/2007/10/09/observations-on-microsoft-mvc-for-aspnet#comment-4573 About the clean HTML, ID generation: You get to handle it yourself. I, for one, welcome this change, as the naming containers tend to make th nastiest looking ID elements, just in case they might collide. This will allow javascript integration with less... friction. About the clean HTML, ID generation: You get to handle it yourself. I, for one, welcome this change, as the naming containers tend to make th nastiest looking ID elements, just in case they might collide.

This will allow javascript integration with less… friction.

]]> By: Ben Hall http://damieng.com/blog/2007/10/09/observations-on-microsoft-mvc-for-aspnet#comment-4567 Ben Hall Thu, 11 Oct 2007 09:29:31 +0000 http://damieng.com/blog/2007/10/09/observations-on-microsoft-mvc-for-aspnet#comment-4567 Screencast software I guess is something like Camtasia by TechSmith. I'm sure that records you and the screen at the same time. As for the zooming, looks like ZoomIt! Can't remember seeing the highlighting.... <a href="http://www.hanselman.com/blog/ShortMyVisualStudioColorSettings.aspx" rel="nofollow">His theme is available on his blog</a> Screencast software I guess is something like Camtasia by TechSmith. I’m sure that records you and the screen at the same time.

As for the zooming, looks like ZoomIt!

Can’t remember seeing the highlighting…. His theme is available on his blog

]]> By: MS MVC - The Empire Strikes Back | travellinghead http://damieng.com/blog/2007/10/09/observations-on-microsoft-mvc-for-aspnet#comment-4564 MS MVC - The Empire Strikes Back | travellinghead Wed, 10 Oct 2007 21:28:59 +0000 http://damieng.com/blog/2007/10/09/observations-on-microsoft-mvc-for-aspnet#comment-4564 [...] provides a good summary of the new MS MVC framework if you haven’t watched the video [...] [...] provides a good summary of the new MS MVC framework if you haven’t watched the video [...]

]]> By: bonskijr http://damieng.com/blog/2007/10/09/observations-on-microsoft-mvc-for-aspnet#comment-4563 bonskijr Wed, 10 Oct 2007 19:50:29 +0000 http://damieng.com/blog/2007/10/09/observations-on-microsoft-mvc-for-aspnet#comment-4563 great summarisation, if i'm not mistaken ScottHa is using ZoomIt tool from sysinternals suite.. regards great summarisation,

if i’m not mistaken ScottHa is using ZoomIt tool from sysinternals suite..

regards

]]> By: Mark Pollack http://damieng.com/blog/2007/10/09/observations-on-microsoft-mvc-for-aspnet#comment-4547 Mark Pollack Tue, 09 Oct 2007 20:40:23 +0000 http://damieng.com/blog/2007/10/09/observations-on-microsoft-mvc-for-aspnet#comment-4547 Hi, Great summary. Just a small clarification, Spring.NET's web support is not MVC based. The approach is to still use WebForms, but remove as much of the pain as possible with that approach, i.e. dependency injection for aspx, custom http modules, as well as a better page lifecycle that allows for bi-directional databinding, validation etc. Of course, we will be working to bring added value to the new MVC stack. Cheers, Mark Hi,

Great summary. Just a small clarification, Spring.NET’s web support is not MVC based. The approach is to still use WebForms, but remove as much of the pain as possible with that approach, i.e. dependency injection for aspx, custom http modules, as well as a better page lifecycle that allows for bi-directional databinding, validation etc. Of course, we will be working to bring added value to the new MVC stack.

Cheers,
Mark

]]> By: Damien Guard http://damieng.com/blog/2007/10/09/observations-on-microsoft-mvc-for-aspnet#comment-4545 Damien Guard Tue, 09 Oct 2007 18:47:16 +0000 http://damieng.com/blog/2007/10/09/observations-on-microsoft-mvc-for-aspnet#comment-4545 Better late than never... and they're serious on soliciting feedback on this. [)amien Better late than never… and they’re serious on soliciting feedback on this.

[)amien

]]> By: steve http://damieng.com/blog/2007/10/09/observations-on-microsoft-mvc-for-aspnet#comment-4543 steve Tue, 09 Oct 2007 17:30:49 +0000 http://damieng.com/blog/2007/10/09/observations-on-microsoft-mvc-for-aspnet#comment-4543 Talk about being late to the party; everyone else has been using MVC for web applications for about 8 years.... Talk about being late to the party; everyone else has been using MVC for web applications for about 8 years….

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